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Delroth

# Posted on 01/16/2008 11:18:34 PM

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Hello, World !

I created this topic in order to know which programming languages the NP members practise, because it is one of the most important thing on this kind of websites (general help about computer and programming).

Moreover, this topic could be a good place to explain the pros and cons of each programming language, and help the other members to discover languages they would like to write programs in. But this topic should not fall into a huge troll (like PHP vs RoR, Python vs Ruby, imperative vs functional, ...).

Here is an example of a message that should be posted in this topic (and which also gives my opinion

) :

My favourite programming language is Python, as it gives access to most of the libraries currently used when programming language, has a really simple syntax which is also very complete (with things like list comprehensions, slices or ternary operator). A joke even says "Python is like pseudo-code correctly indented"

.
Even if I find Python is an ideal language for programming scripts or even websites (by the use of frameworks like Django or Turbogears, which are as complete as Ruby on Rails for those who knows this Ruby framework

), it has cons too : for example, as it is an interpreted language, it may be slow in some situations (like heavy computing on lists/arrays), but modules exists to speed up Python (like NumPy or Psyco). Another problem is that the language evolution is often decided by only one person, Guido Van Rossum, which is the historical language creator. And I don't always agree with his ideas about Python future :whistle:

.

The Python "Hello, World !" code looks like that :
Code: Python - Show / hide line numbering

print "Hello, World !" # Hard to write that in an easier way :D

Another thing, if someone launches a troll here, please don't feed the troll

Edited on 01/16/2008 11:28:16 PM by Delroth

speedking

# Posted on 01/17/2008 12:18:16 AM

I saw an Angel ...
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I mostly code in C++, because It's kinda the main language they teach us at uni

As most geeks nowadays, I can code in PHP, xHTML/CSS/ Etc...
I'd say i've got a pretty good knowledge of all those languages.

cout << "Hello world !";

=)

needforspeed

# Posted on 01/17/2008 07:57:56 PM

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Me I code in PHP, xHTML, CSS and MySQL. I want to learn Javascript but I have no time for this

.

Code: PHP - Show / hide line numbering

<?php echo 'Hello World !'; ?>

Delroth

# Posted on 01/17/2008 08:05:00 PM

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Quote: speedking

I mostly code in C++, because It's kinda the main language they teach us at uni

As most geeks nowadays, I can code in PHP, xHTML/CSS/ Etc...
I'd say i've got a pretty good knowledge of all those languages.

cout << "Hello world !";

=)

Hem... the right code would be this one :
Code: C++ - Show / hide line numbering

#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
int main()
{
cout << "Hello world !" << endl;
return 0; // EDIT: forgot the ; :-'
}

It is longer and harder than PHP or Python codes

. For PHP, you should also add a final '\n' to have exactly the same behaviour as the Python "print" statement.

Edited on 01/17/2008 08:05:53 PM by Delroth

yabberyabber

# Posted on 01/18/2008 02:12:33 AM

i found pink mold in my trash
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i started learning c++, but then my book got eaten (long story...)so i decided to learn Php, but i keep accidentally writing c++ commands... like my brain doesn't want me to learn it or something...

Code: C#

using System;
 
class myveryfirstprogram
{
    static void Main()
    {
        Console.WriteLine("but i got sucked into c# quite recently and i love it!");
        Console.ReadLine();
    }
}

Code: C++

#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
int main
{
cout << "<strike>but c++ is still more useful to me (because i know it better)</strike> \n"
"lol, i suck at C now... (and i used line-through in a cout command...)";
system("PAUSE")
return 0;
}

Edited on 06/27/2008 08:37:35 PM by yabberyabber

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alex.css

# Posted on 01/26/2008 04:42:12 PM

Trust nobody, do it yourself !

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I mainly code under PHP and MySQL. I don't think that CSS and xHTML are programming language, but I use them every days or so.

I also code Ruby, wich is my favourites programming language

Code: Ruby - Show / hide line numbering

print "Hello world !\n"

Edited on 01/26/2008 04:43:02 PM by alex.css

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Souleater

# Posted on 01/26/2008 08:34:59 PM

Life is life, nana nanana **
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C# .Net Lover

Code: C# - Show / hide line numbering

public static void Main(string[] args)
{
Console.WriteLine("Hello World!");
}

noob4ever

# Posted on 01/26/2008 09:59:00 PM

I'm French ^^
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Quote: Souleater

C# .Net Lover

Code: C# - Show / hide line numbering

public static void Main(string[] args)
{
Console.WriteLine("Hello World!");
}

it's my favorite language too

more correct :

Code: C# - Show / hide line numbering

using System;
namespace Application
{
class EntryPoint
{
public static void Main ()
{
Console.Out.WriteLine("Hello World!");
return;
}
}
}

What did C:/DARTHVADER said to C:/DARTHVADER/LUKESKYWALKER ?

I'm your folder

chindit

# Posted on 02/14/2008 11:34:03 PM

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I prefer PHP

Code: PHP - Show / hide line numbering

<?php
$avis='I love PHP';
if(isset($avis){
echo $avis;
}
?>

Kajuzbonuz

# Posted on 02/15/2008 07:05:21 PM

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Hello,

I cannot say I have a preference, because I only know one language (When I say "know", I mean being able to programme and have a result, not just knowing basics, else I could have added a few things): PHP

For me, a good programming language is a simple and powerfull language.

Leo

# Posted on 04/03/2008 10:19:53 PM

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The one I love better is really PHP because it's quite easy compared to C

I really like it, because even if I'd love to master C and C++ as I'm fond of computers, it becomes hards... I'll start again later

<a href="http://sunnypix.free.fr/index.php">Sunnypix</a>
<?php echo "Website showing travel pictures"; ?>
printf("Go to my website !");

==> Sunnypix :sun:

zancdar

# Posted on 06/26/2008 03:12:36 AM

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Quote: Leo

The one I love better is really PHP because it's quite easy compared to C

I really like it, because even if I'd love to master C and C++ as I'm fond of computers, it becomes hards... I'll start again later

C and PHP are quite different :-' .
My favorite programming language is C++, then I'm a beginner but with about 1 hour on emacs per days we can get experience quickly.

This is my sexy hello world :
Code: C++

#include <iostream>

int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
    std::cout << "Hello world" << std::endl;
    return EXIT_SUCCESS;
}

But delroth... I think we can trolling talking about our favorite text editor

Leo

# Posted on 06/26/2008 04:24:16 PM

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I've started C++, and it's quite easier than C

I like it best now

<a href="http://sunnypix.free.fr/index.php">Sunnypix</a>
<?php echo "Website showing travel pictures"; ?>
printf("Go to my website !");

==> Sunnypix :sun:

Octave_41

# Posted on 06/26/2008 06:25:07 PM

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I like C. I'm starting to learn C++ but it looks hard :'(

Holidays !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you read to play poker ?
Check with my program (still being translated in English )

Leo

# Posted on 06/27/2008 11:49:03 AM

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What ? Once you know C very well (which is not my case

), C++ is much easier !

<a href="http://sunnypix.free.fr/index.php">Sunnypix</a>
<?php echo "Website showing travel pictures"; ?>
printf("Go to my website !");

==> Sunnypix :sun:

surgency

# Posted on 06/30/2008 09:27:16 AM

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i like C# the most. i only know 3 languages, if you dont count the small parts of javascript or php that i know.
so c# wins the race for me

Octave_41

# Posted on 06/30/2008 05:46:51 PM

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Quote: Leo

What ? Once you know C very well (which is not my case

), C++ is much easier !

Do you think ? But if you want to learn C++, you ought to know C. C++ is much like C but C++ is just more powerful than C.

I'm currently learning C (SDL). I have made a funny program but it is still being translated in English.

I prefer C.

Holidays !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you read to play poker ?
Check with my program (still being translated in English )

Leo

# Posted on 06/30/2008 05:59:35 PM

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If you start reading the C++ course (on the Sdz, sorry for English-speaking people), you'll understand very quickly why I am saying this

<a href="http://sunnypix.free.fr/index.php">Sunnypix</a>
<?php echo "Website showing travel pictures"; ?>
printf("Go to my website !");

==> Sunnypix :sun:

Octave_41

# Posted on 06/30/2008 06:50:01 PM

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Okay, I've not started yet

(Only the first tuto)

By the way, I don't know why there are not tutorials about programming on NP o_O

?

They ought to start by translating C/C++ courses before PHP.

(On the SDZ, Mateo has started by writing the Mapping tutorial, then C/C++, then PHP/XHTML/CSS/SQL )

They should translate with this order

Holidays !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you read to play poker ?
Check with my program (still being translated in English )

Leo

# Posted on 06/30/2008 07:17:53 PM

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I don't really agree with you

The PHP course should be translated first, as it has already started to be

Of course, then it would be really interesting for it to be done !

<a href="http://sunnypix.free.fr/index.php">Sunnypix</a>
<?php echo "Website showing travel pictures"; ?>
printf("Go to my website !");

==> Sunnypix :sun:

Octave_41

# Posted on 07/01/2008 12:35:34 PM

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Yeah, I forgot about that

You're right. What's going on with this tuto o_O

? We have no translation.

Before writing a tutorial about forums, PHP's tutorial should be finished

We haven't got any translation for now a year !

(PS: I take a look a the latest translated tuto : 08/23/2007 )

I know translator might be busy but they could have the time within 1 year

I say that but it means nothing :whistle:

Holidays !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you read to play poker ?
Check with my program (still being translated in English )

Leo

# Posted on 07/01/2008 04:59:10 PM

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I think that now, once the exams are over, and that the holidays are starting, they might have more time

<a href="http://sunnypix.free.fr/index.php">Sunnypix</a>
<?php echo "Website showing travel pictures"; ?>
printf("Go to my website !");

==> Sunnypix :sun:

EmpereurSturm

# Posted on 07/01/2008 05:24:38 PM

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<joke>french :') </joke>

I had a dream!

yabberyabber

# Posted on 07/01/2008 08:53:55 PM

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i think the PHP tutorials should be translated first because PHP is easier and people who have never programmed should learn an easy language before they learn a hard language like C or C++

i need a french pen pal to show my fiend I'm cool

alex.css

# Posted on 07/05/2008 01:36:53 AM

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C/C++ and PHP are almost different.
I wonder where are those translator (anyway, I'll read the french tutos :whistle:

).
I agree with Octave_41 : One year is a very long time without translation >.<

Maybe looking forward for one soon ?
Like news : We got less news this time :s

.:ImperialBB's Translator:.

yabberyabber

# Posted on 07/05/2008 02:40:22 AM

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what do you mean, there very different! i think that this argument should be moved to its own thread but im not very interested in it so im not going to start the thread...

i need a french pen pal to show my fiend I'm cool

Octave_41

# Posted on 07/20/2008 08:18:46 PM

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Alex, I agree with you but PHP is based on C. In fact, when you look at PHP's syntax, it looks like C's. (Even PHP's is easier to understand and to practice

)

Holidays !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you read to play poker ?
Check with my program (still being translated in English )

alex.css

# Posted on 07/21/2008 01:39:11 AM

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Very easier yes ehh
What I meant was that PHP is server interpreted.
It's kinda different from C/C++

.:ImperialBB's Translator:.

Delroth

# Posted on 07/21/2008 06:16:01 AM

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In fact, PHP syntax is based on Perl's one, not exactly on C syntax

. However, as Perl itself is based on a C-like syntax, ...

Octave_41

# Posted on 07/25/2008 07:51:15 PM

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Yes, of course they're different ! Only the syntax is the same

Holidays !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you read to play poker ?
Check with my program (still being translated in English )

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